India’s Vedas Show Ancient Knowledge of UFOs and Aliens

Ancient Indian texts, including the Vedas and Mahabharata, describe flying objects (Vimanas), advanced weaponry, and encounters with various extraterrestrial beings, supported by historical accounts and modern sightings in India.

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Title: India’s Vedas Show Ancient Knowledge of UFOs and Aliens

Dek: Ancient Indian texts, including the Vedas and Mahabharata, describe flying objects (Vimanas), advanced weaponry, and encounters with various extraterrestrial beings, supported by historical accounts and modern sightings in India.

Keywords: Ancient India, UFOs, Vedas, Mahabharata, Vimanas, ancient texts, flying objects, aliens, extraterrestrial beings, Sanskrit, Indian lore, ancient technology, alien sightings, Project Blue Book, unexplained phenomena, historical UFOs, Indian archaeology

Tom Kagy (00:02)

Hello, this is Tom Kagy with Unconventional Wisdom. Today we have Najla Zaidi, who’s our expert on ancient Indian ⁓ lore contributing to our understanding of UFOs. Hello, Najla.

Najla Zaidi (00:21)

Hi, Tom, it’s such a pleasure to talk to you again today.

Tom Kagy (00:24)

Yes, it is. Okay, so you have all this Indian lore that you say supports our observations of UFOs.

Najla Zaidi (00:36)

Yes, actually, India has contributed in several ways. There’s ancient texts that describe flying objects. There’s ancient structures that are replicas of these flying vehicles. And they’ve had this belief since the beginning of time in beings from other worlds. And besides all of that, there’s also actual instances of UFO sightings that have been investigated by authorities. So they have a lot of stuff that’s gone on for centuries.

Tom Kagy (01:05)

Okay, well, what I’d like to focus on first are the ancient texts, which I assume is really the biggest source of our knowledge of what ancient Indians had observed.

Najla Zaidi (01:19)

Yes, so the most ancient are the Vedas, and these are basically, they were orally composed in northwestern India, which is called Punjab area, 1500 and 1200 BCE. And these were verbal, like verbally passed down, sages would go into meditation, and when they came out of the meditation, this was the information that they received, that’s what they would say. And then besides the Vedas,

There were also three other ancient texts. One was the ⁓ Mahabharata, which is an epic, and another was the Ramayana, which is also an epic, and then a little unknown book that was called the Samarangana Suddhatra Hathra. And it’s an ancient Indian treaty that was attributed to King Bhoja of Dhar, and it was written in the 11th century CE.

So those were the main ancient texts, but they’ve been around for over 2,500 years and have talked about aliens in addition to other things.

Tom Kagy (02:23)

Okay, so what I’d like to do is focus in on these texts because since these texts are really the main source of details about UFO sightings and knowledge, I’d like to see if we can nail down exactly when these texts were created and by whom. So you first mentioned that the Vedas, which I assume is sort of the generic word for all of the ancient texts, or is

Najla Zaidi (02:52)

Right.

Tom Kagy (02:52)

Are the Vedas a specific ancient text?

Najla Zaidi (02:56)

So there are four Vedas. They’re broken up into different sections, but the main four, the Rig Veda, the Yajur Veda, the Sama Veda, and the Atra Veda, Vaveda. And each one has its own four subdivisions. But basically, these started between, in northwestern India, between 1500 and 1200 BCE.

And then they went on later on, they added some that came around 1200 and 900 BCE more eastward between the Yamayuna and the Ganges River. so it just kind of like that was the time that it went on. there was one person who actually took all of this information and he wrote it down. And his name was Vias. And Viasa was cut.

basically, Vedic Vyaso was also known as a sage with his prominent role in Hindi tradition was he was a compiler of all the mantras. So he actually sat down and wrote all the mantras down. they believe that he also wrote the Mahabharata along with 18 of the Puranas and the Brahman Sutras. So he’s also the author of the Mahabharata. And they believe that he wrote these back in a small cave in the Himalayan Mountains near Amana village. And this was probably around the third century BCE is when they believe this happened.

Tom Kagy (04:30)

Okay, so how, again, what was the name of this author?

Najla Zaidi (04:36)

His name was Vyasa.

Tom Kagy (04:38)

Okay, so how was Vallarta or Vallata able to compile all this knowledge that you mentioned had originated sounds like about 32 to 3500 years ago?

Najla Zaidi (04:52)

It was like a tradition of passing down information or it was like an oral tradition. And so he basically was a sage himself and he’s the one that sat down actually and wrote everything down.

Tom Kagy (04:58)

Okay, so he was kind of like Homer writing the Iliad.

Najla Zaidi (05:09)

Exactly.

And in fact, the Maharabharta is like twice the size of the Iliad and the Odyssey.

Tom Kagy (05:16)

The Odyssey.

OK, yeah, I know that for probably for a few hundred years, scholars were very skeptical about the veracity of the action that was described in the Iliad and the Odyssey until I think about 150, 200 years ago, some German archaeologists, I believe, actually discovered the ancient city of Troy in northwestern Turkey.

Najla Zaidi (05:45)

Right and I believe that these stories come from some sort of reality because the Mara Bartha itself is roughly 10 times the length of the Iliad and the Odyssey combined.

Tom Kagy (05:57)

Okay, so by Vyata then wrote this down in some sort of ⁓ couplets, some sort of poetic.

Najla Zaidi (06:07)

Right, they were like written in couplets. were like poems that were written down. And he did the Vedas the same way. So the Vedas were written first, and then he’s basically the author of the Mahabharata, which is an epic about two fighting cousins that were basically fighting for control of the kingdom. And within it, were all of these, it’s basically within it are all of the rules and regulations of culture and how to be and how to run life. So it was like storytelling but also telling you how to be as a human being and as a race.

Tom Kagy (06:49)

Okay, so it was incorporating all of the cultural knowledge that was existing at that time that had been, I guess, passed down for sounds like what for 1500 years.

Najla Zaidi (06:54)

Yes, exactly. 2500 years more than 2500 years.

Tom Kagy (07:06)

No, but I mean, you’re saying that the oral tradition began about 3,500 years ago, and then Vyat wrote this down, what, about 2,500 years ago. Okay, so he was, sounds like he was ⁓ kind of ⁓ incorporating all of the Vedas that had been passed down for a period of about a thousand years before he actually set them down.

Najla Zaidi (07:11)

Yes, you’re right. exactly. Yes. So about 1500 of you.

Right, exactly. He’s also regarded by many Hindus as a partial incarnation of Lord Vishnu. And they consider him one of the immortals. And they believe that he’s still alive in a current age known as the Kali Yuga. So that’s why he was able to do this, to sit and write all this stuff down.

Tom Kagy (07:54)

Yeah, it sounds like a superhuman feat to write down something that long. Okay, so now it seems like from what you’re saying that his Mahabharata and Vedas were actually intended to be more of a sort of a knowledge base, kind of an encyclopedia of

Najla Zaidi (08:01)

Exactly.

Tom Kagy (08:22)

The knowledge that had existed up until that time.

Najla Zaidi (08:25)

Yes, they absolutely were. And it was really interesting because there was such a wealth of knowledge on diverse topics. Like not, you know, besides the alien stuff, there was, they talked about celestial events and astronomy. They knew about the moon and the sun. They knew about, you know, they mentioned eclipses and predictions like that degree. So they had a degree of understanding of astronomy. And then they also talked about in one of the Vedas called the Dhanur Veda.

They talked about military strategy. They organized ancient military forces, ornaments, warfare strategies. So it was like a encyclopedia of how to handle things and how to manage life. Like they even had the Sama Veda was like a book of songs. It was all about musical chants and melodies and what kind of music to use in religious rituals.

And then they also had medicine there. There was like the Yajurveda. It’s also known in the Book of Rituals. And that actually gave instruction on various religious ceremonies and rituals, including birth, marriage, death. And then they detailed the social structure that they carried, you know, had in the Vedic period, which a lot carried on to today.

Tom Kagy (09:45)

Okay, so it incorporated essentially objective knowledge and information and it was not intended to be some sort of a fanciful account of somebody’s imagination.

Najla Zaidi (09:58)

No, absolutely not. Like the Atrava Veda, it also had spells in there and sorcery, but it also had medicine. It had explanations of how to manage diseases and how to, ⁓ like they even had plastic surgery in there, how to perform plastic surgery.

Tom Kagy (10:18)

Okay, so the accounts, but this also contained accounts of UFOs and aliens.

Najla Zaidi (10:23)

Yes, and the way that they set these accounts up, were very specific on saying that, like, they believe that, because the Vedic system of belief, not based on dogma, they believe it’s knowledge, and they believe the Veda isn’t actually a compilation of knowledge. They believe that if something existed in the Vedas, it actually exists, that there was nothing in the Vedas that was made up. And then one example is in the Padma Purana.

They’re talking about 400,000 humanoid species that are within the universe. They’re not talking only on Earth, they’re saying the entire universe.

Tom Kagy (10:59)

Okay, just to make clear the context in which we find this information about UFOs and aliens, that information about UFOs and aliens would then be a fairly tiny part of these writings.

Najla Zaidi (11:15)

Yes, exactly. They go all the way back to the very first ⁓ Veda that was written down, which was the Rig Veda, had spoke about ⁓ gods and goddesses and vimyanas, or like their flying machines, their word for flying machines, that actually describe them looking like the saucers that we see today.

Tom Kagy (11:36)

Okay, so now moving on to their descriptions of these UFOs. What are some of their exact descriptions of what they look like and what they do?

Najla Zaidi (11:49)

Well, they basically, the flying objects were basically, looked like flying saucers. said that they were flying objects. They called them Vimanas, and they described them as capable of flight. they had, know, early descriptions where they looked exactly like a saucer like we see today. Some showed a saucer that was huge with two stories that could carry, you know, like a chariot in the sky that could carry like hundreds and hundreds of people.

And then, in fact, they also talked about the Vinyanas being used using Mercury as part of their propulsion system, which is exactly what NASA is doing right now. So they described them to be able to travel at high speed, carry large numbers of people. And then they also said that they had aerial agility, like they were capable of rising up into the sky vertically, horizontally, and diagonally.

And then they had incredible speed where they could travel and cover huge distances in a matter of hours. They could go from area to area in a planet or from planet to planet. And they even spoke about materials. And the materials, they said, it was fabricated with some special metals and alloys, which we don’t even know what they are. But they were aware of some sort of material science at that time.

Tom Kagy (13:11)

So what are some of the characteristics of these materials?

Najla Zaidi (13:15)

They didn’t go into any details, but they said that the materials were some kind of a metal, an alloy, and they could use solar energy to travel, and they could also use mercury for propulsion. that was like they didn’t go in. They just said that there were some sort of metals, but they didn’t describe them. It was something that was ⁓ outerworldly. It wasn’t from within Earth.

Tom Kagy (13:43)

Okay, so in addition to carrying creatures around, did these ⁓ crafts do anything else? Were they used for other purposes?

Najla Zaidi (13:54)

Yeah, they were they were also used for weapons, which was very interesting. Like the Vimanas were armed with powerful weapons. So they may have been military implications because according to the Mahabharata, there were 46 different types of weapons. And like, for example, they had a weapon which was like a guided missile called Brahmastra, and that could target enemies accurately and devastating force. And this could be seen as evidence of advanced technology.

And then they also had Vishnu’s weapons, was equipped to find their targets. So this was launched, and it would destroy everything that was moving. So it’s kind of like a moving ⁓ motion detection weapon. And then there was another one, Pasaporta weapon, that basically would multiply into seven different arrows. So it hit seven different targets at the same time. So kind of like our missiles now. they were, so. Right, right.

Tom Kagy (14:47)

Right, our multiple reentry missiles.

Najla Zaidi (14:51)

And then they even talked about Salva was an anti-god that could make his vehicle disappear. So we see that in accounts today where people say there was a spaceship and then suddenly it disappeared. Right, there was invisibility and then they also, that same Salva could put people to sleep. So we were thinking perhaps that could be nerve gas.

Tom Kagy (15:02)

Right, so they had some sort of invisibility capability there. Or possibly some other form of energy that might cover people.

Najla Zaidi (15:16)

Right. And then they also,

you know, they had access to weapons that were suggestive of a nuclear weapon they called Diva Astra’s because they described them that they could unleash high energy in the form of explosions, water, rain, storms, like an after effects of that would be like a nuclear weapon.

Tom Kagy (15:38)

So were there any accounts of actual wars and what kind of destruction was wrought by these wars?

Najla Zaidi (15:46)

There were accounts of wars that went on in the early days of India, in ancient India, where there were wars against gods and demigods. But they just spoke that they were wars in space where spaceships could knock each other down too. But they were.

Tom Kagy (16:03)

So were the wars ⁓ between or among the aliens as opposed to the aliens attacking humans?

Najla Zaidi (16:11)

Yes, they were among the gods or the aliens.

with humans at the time, humans witnessed that there were some, like they’ve also talked about different types of aliens in these texts. And some of these aliens that we know of today, like the reptilians, the big gray aliens with the big eyes, they discussed them back then and they talked about how they would come and harass humans all the time in that ancient time.

Tom Kagy (16:41)

Okay, so even though the wards were not actually against humans, but there were some malevolent aliens, it sounds like.

Najla Zaidi (16:47)

Right, there were malevolent aliens at the time.

Tom Kagy (16:50)

Okay. And what aside from the gray aliens, were there any other types of aliens that they describe in these?

Najla Zaidi (16:59)

Right, described, so they said that there were extraterrestrial beings, their aliens were categorized basically in three major types. They were called the suras, were the benevolent beings, and those were basically like the gods. And then the manusas are us, the mortal human beings. And then the suras were the malevolent beings. And they described these, which was very interesting, they’re called crimias.

They were like bacteria, viruses, monosodular beings, larvae and worms. But they said in other planets, these beings could do everything that humans could do, that they could build cities, they could roam in spacecraft, and then they would come to Earth and create disturbances on Earth. then they had the ⁓ rudraanas was popular as a reptilian species. And they actually had clans.

And they were frequently mentioned in Mahabharata about doing all kinds of activities throughout Vedic history. And they were in clans known as the Nagas and Uragas. And they definitely had interactions with humans in the past because they would always cause some kind of a problem. But then they even went on to talk about ⁓ minutias or humanoid creatures. And in this, they talked about human beings, about half human and half beast.

creatures, ape-like creatures, which I’m thinking is probably like Bigfoot or, you know, what we know as the Yeti. And then there were, you know, other winged angels. They discussed angels and even Siddhas, which are considered superhuman beings, like we see as superheroes, but they actually believe that they exist.

Tom Kagy (18:42)

Okay, what interests me the most actually out of all that is the fact that they talked about viruses because how would they even be able to see or detect viruses unless they had some sort of access to microscopes?

Najla Zaidi (18:59)

Right, and that’s what’s so interesting that it’s in the Vedas that these things exist and they even gave them a name. So it’s really interesting that they knew about this, which I think this lends credibility to talking about all of the alien stuff.

Tom Kagy (19:15)

Okay, so it sounds like the texts were covering the entirety of the alien species. How many were there? How many alien species did the text actually describe?

Najla Zaidi (19:38)

They really described like four or five that were alien beings that came. But then they talked about other beings that were already on Earth, like deep fairies, deities, angels, that were in both in heaven and on Earth. But the beings that would come to visit us were like the virus type beings, and then the reptilian species, and then the big head and the big eye species.

So these are the same people that we’ve seen. And they’ve also actually talked about descriptions between wars, between the demigods, which were called devas, and demons, asuras, that were here on earth. And basically in the Mahabharata, humans, know, what our job is to do is to stay away from the negative and try to improve ourselves to become a higher being, like the higher beings, like the gods.

Tom Kagy (20:30)

So that is what was stated in the Mahabharata. By the way, these texts, what language were they written in?

Najla Zaidi (20:34)

Yes, and then Mahabharata. They were all written in Sanskrit.

Tom Kagy (20:42)

Okay, so is Sanskrit a language that is used, is it extant anywhere in the world?

Najla Zaidi (20:49)

I don’t believe it’s extinct anymore, it is. Like now, they usually, there’s various dialects in India. There’s Urdu, Hindi, Tamil, very different ones. But this is like the ancient texts are all in Sanskrit. And it’s really interesting that there was an account of, there was an account basically where there was proof.

Of these, I’m trying to, sorry, trying to find in my notes, there was proof of these beings that were, that they had visited Earth with spaceships because there was a book written by Russian ufologist Paul Stonehill and British ufologist Philip Mantle called UFO Case Files of Russia and they actually found a space rocket that had Sanskrit inscriptions in the cockpit and this happened in 1948 in Kiev.

Vyhovoka was a famous ⁓ archaeologist at the time and he found this piece of a ⁓ space rocket and when he took it apart the language inside was Sanskrit. So this was

Tom Kagy (22:05)

So what does this suggest that maybe the rocket was actually built by the ancient ⁓ Indian or?

Najla Zaidi (22:09)

Yes, they were visiting the ancient Indians back in 2500 years ago, back in the time of the Vedas. And during that same time, also found, and there was a mention of another strange archeological discovery in Kiev, and that was basically, they found a chest containing 500 books written in Arabic, Greek, Sanskrit, and Slavic languages. So they may have been visiting us for years and were actually collecting our information and our, you know, text.

Tom Kagy (22:45)

Okay. What kind of, let’s say, ⁓ correlative evidence do we have that the information in here is real? mean, do we have any other ⁓ signs or evidence that what is stated in these texts were actually attributable to actual events, to actual knowledge. I mean…

Najla Zaidi (23:20)

So there’s actually architecture that shows that is in India and even in Colombia that shows that they were here, or we actually saw them. People in ancient India saw them because they had structures of replicas of flying machines. in, let’s see, I totally lost my place here.

Tom Kagy (24:07)

So you’re talking about the stupas then.

Najla Zaidi (24:09)

Yes, the stupas. They had stupas and they had buildings in, like in, they believe basically that there was the Somala River, which is in India. Around this river, was the most, it’s an area where we have the most temples. And the temples are basically, supposedly according to,

research that the Indian government has done. They are exact replicas of the spaceships that were described in the ancient texts and the Vedic texts. the buildings are not only in the areas where there’s always, these buildings are always where there’s like three rivers that come together. For example, in India, it’s in the Somala River. And then the same type of situation has happened

in Columbia at a river in Columbia in St. Augustine, our archaeological park. And in that, they have the same type of buildings there. And so it’s possible, the only way that they would have known to build these temples around these places is if they had aerial surveillance. Because this is where the, this is where the aliens had come in the past and this is where the temples were built.

Tom Kagy (25:32)

Okay, so you’re saying that they were able to spot a place where there’s a confluence of three rivers.

Najla Zaidi (25:38)

Right, where they could find, and that’s for some reason, again, it’s the theme of water, because the entire universe, I guess, needs water. And that’s where they would go, but they would make these stupas there. And then they also had designed, I’m trying to think of what they were called. They looked kind of like a…

Tom Kagy (26:04)

Are you referring to maybe the statues of the spacemen wearing helmets?

Najla Zaidi (26:09)

Yeah, it’s like there were, well, and what happened was in Columbia, when they went to the archaeological part, there’s a spaceman there wearing exactly the helmet with the big eyes and, and, you know, that was described in India. So they believe that these vessels went from India to Columbia in search of gold and they were digging for gold.

Tom Kagy (26:32)

Okay, so is there anything else that you were able to uncover that suggests that these texts are actually describing real events involving UFOs or aliens? ⁓

Najla Zaidi (26:50)

Yes, like we’ve actually had alien sightings in the US. So that’s in India. There have been numerous sightings in India of ancient aliens arriving in those places. like, for example, the earliest one. And these are all sightings that I’m speaking about that have actually been investigated by the government or by a national investigative committee.

Because in 1951 in New Delhi, 25 members of a flying club, that George F. Float was the chief engineer. at 10, 20 AM, he actually saw a cigar-shaped spaceship come at the hangar, like around Delhi Flying Club’s hangar. And 25 people came out to see it. And they watched it for several, for, you know, it was visible for several minutes. And it was faster than at the time that it was three times greater.

than the British vampire jet that was available at the time in 1951. But even to this day, Project Blue Book has evaluated this sighting and considers it unidentified because they still to this day aren’t able to say what it was, but 25 people saw it and they were all legitimate people. George Float was the chief aerial engineer there. So that’s the earliest one. And then on September 27th,

of 2024, a team of scientists and geologists were in Sambu Tapu. They spotted a white object resembling a snowman, and it looked like this three to four foot tall object was walking down a ridge. And all the scientists saw this at about 6.45 in the morning. And when they ready to, like they tried to take pictures of it, they reported it to authorities. The next thing they know, it disappeared and went up into the sky. But it looked like a snowman walking down.

The Hill.

Tom Kagy (28:48)

This is an organic creature or was it a some sort of a artificial machine?

Najla Zaidi (28:54)

No, they said it was an organic creature, but it looked like a snowman, like a walking snowman. And they actually ended up seeing it twice, once in 2024, and I believe the second time it was in 2027. they were… It was like kind of walking, bouncing down the mountain, like, you know, as if a snowman was walking. And then all of a sudden it flew up into the sky and disappeared. And these were like legitimate scientists and geologists who saw it.

Tom Kagy (29:06)

but it was able to actually fly without any assistance.

Okay.

Najla Zaidi (29:24)

and they completely believed that this was real and that no one has been able to explain it since then. mean, court…

Tom Kagy (29:31)

Maybe some creature wearing ⁓ a white suit, right, that has that aerial capacity.

Najla Zaidi (29:35)

Right, it could be, it could be.

Right, it could be, but they were, from what they saw, because it flew up in the sky afterwards, they were confused. What could it possibly be? And then in October of 2007, there was a fireball that was photographed in the skies of Kolkata, and they claimed it was shape-shifting, and it was reported by the Times of India, but so many people saw it, including Birla Duari, he was the Birla’s Planetarium Director at the time. And he said that this natural phenomenon, like no natural phenomenon could have lasted for that long because this was visible. The fireball was visible from 3.30 a.m. to 6.30 a.m. So for hours it was there and then it flew up in the sky and vanished. And, you know, the entire city, including the Planetarium Director, witnessed this.

Tom Kagy (30:34)

Okay, well, it sounds like these Indian texts support the belief that we’ve had aliens visiting for at least a few thousand years. Okay, well, thank you very much, Najla. This has been interesting.

Najla Zaidi (30:43)

Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Tom. It was great to talk to you about this.